The Stick of Joseph podcast
The Hidden Hebrew Wedding Ritual and The Temple
06-27-2024
Andrea Woodmansee
YouTube Podcast: https://youtu.be/dU81hfwml6Q?si=TaEYZek66UhTtB4x
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what that ancient religion looked like it struck me this looks a lot like the
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temple that we know today is that a little strange why is the church adorned as a
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bride is that just poetic language or is there more to it why is Jesus using this
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as a parable and the thing is it's because this Parable is rooted in those ancient Hebrew wedding Customs because
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we look back and we smirk and be like oh women weren't treated well in the ancient world
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but maybe that is a complete switch I think women maybe aren't treated well in today's world so that's why the the
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father would select a bride and then he would go to the bride's family and they would negotiate and if you look at it
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who selected the bride for Adam oh yeah it was God the Father God the Father the father chose the bride right it's just
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like I have to reread the scriptures again you know what I mean like this dropped my jaw a couple years ago back
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in 2020
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off welcome everybody to another episode of The Stick of Joseph today we have an
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awesome guest and she's making her internet debut as far as I know this is this your first online interview okay
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sweet um Andrea woodmancy she's a good friend of mine and an amazing researcher
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and writer welcome to the stick of Joseph thanks for having me on it's great to be here we're excited to have you and a
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mother of how many kids uh five children currently in my home but we've had foster children as well too so and so
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you've done all this research while you're wrangling all your kids which is amazing I know I know we used to have
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calls all the time back when we were working on previous projects and I was you were always you were like we would
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do like facetimes and stuff and you're always doing all the mom Stuff Plus all of this stuff and I'm like I can't even
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do this stuff and you're doing all the extra it was amazing dude well you had all the dad stuff dude and that way
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laborious so Andrea we're super excited to have you and the subject that we're talking about today is a really
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interesting subject we were talking a Mike day just uh about an hour ago about
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the Jewish marriage ceremony and he's like there isn't a lot of people talking about this when I told him you were
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coming over he was like oh my gosh give me this lady's number and so um we're
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going to talk about this and what relation it has to the Old Testament New Testament and even the Book of Mormon as
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well and so please just let's just get right into it yeah yeah it's I think
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it's something that we've really overlooked as a church um and I think Christianity in general has overlooked
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this but it's a really powerful metaphor and a model for what our relationship with Jesus Christ looks like um and it
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it really has implications for our Temple covenants for our Temple
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ceremonies and I think it adds another layer of evidence for the Book of Mormon as well yeah um and it's it there's so
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much richness and symbolism built into this wedding model um that we can learn
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so much from how did you first off before we get into it how did you get interested in this subject and also Al
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just ancient scripture cuz I know that this is just one of the subjects in regard to ancient scripture that you you
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know spend time researching and writing about but why this specifically so do you want the long story or the short
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story so the medium story okay the medium story so um a lot of this for me
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actually grew out of what we now call a faith crisis um I've actually been a scripture nerd for a long time I was
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like the 12-year-old that was studying the Old Testament um but in my early 20s I encountered a lot of the the anti- LDS
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material and it it made me wonder about things and I I spent time researching
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but the thing the beautiful thing that came out of that dark time was A Renewed testimony and I stumbled
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on to do I have it yes I do and you can put the books up on the table too if you want them um somewhere
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in my my searching during that period I somehow stumbled upon this book called
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The Great Angel a study of Israel's second God okay and that subtitle caught
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my attention Israel's second God I thought I thought the Jews were monotheistic and so I picked it up and
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if you've ever read anything by Margaret Barker you know it's not an easy read um
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so I I read through it once and I didn't understand it but I knew there was
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something in there for me so I read it a second time and started to glean more
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and understand more of what her message was and it opened my eyes up to this idea that and I I don't want to say this
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in any controversial way but that there was a religion that predates Judaism MH and
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what I thought of Israel and what their religion would have been didn't necessarily look exactly like Judaism
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I'd always thought you know Moses was Jewish and what I see is Judaism today
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is I just I wasn't very educated on it so I it sparked my interest and as I learned
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more about what that ancient religion looked like it struck me this looks a
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lot like the temple that we know today um and it helped to restore my testimony
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that Joseph Smith didn't make this up this is real and I just was filled with this desire
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to learn more and more about what that ancient religion looked like the religion going back to Moses and then
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Abraham and then Adam that's so epic have you have you ever heard of the podcast the ancient
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tradition I've heard of it but I haven't delved into it yet yeah dude whoever the lady is that's doing that podcast no can
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I make a call out real quick please Jack Logan if that is your real name which we're starting to think it's not because
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your work we've digested it all sent it out to everyone we know and please email us Hayden thetick of Joseph um because
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we love to collaborate and pick your brain on some other things and we won't we won't we won't let your uh your we
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we'll keep your anonymity I just want to talk to you but so the reason we bring
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that up is because that's the thesis of the podcast it's that there was one ancient religion that was revealed in
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the beginning and that you have all of these strains of religions that are are made out are and this is a uniquely it
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isn't uniquely Latter-Day Saint a lot of the things that we believe and even you
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know one of the we were talking about earlier today ex-nihilo creation that everything was created out of nothing we don't believe that as latter-day Saints
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and when you go back into the ancient religions neither did they right and so there seems to be this ancient ancestor
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religion that Juda Judaism comes out of that Hinduism comes out of and that all
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of the major religions come out of absolutely and I think a mistake that sometimes we make in our church is to
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say that this is the restoration of the church that Jesus Christ established I think we forget that in many respects
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Jesus himself was a restorationist yes that what he was doing was restoring an
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even more ancient Theology and that's why it upset the Jews of his day so much
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and that's but that's also why he gained such a following because elements of that ancient Faith were still there many
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people still believed in those things um and so it resonated with them when Jesus
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started teaching this older Theology and they recognized it as the theology of
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Moses and Adam and going back to Abraham and that's why he gained this following but also be threatened that the
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political Jewish power structure because what they came out of was Josiah's
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reforms um if you and I know David knows so much about this um but you know you
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get King Hezekiah and King Josiah changing their religion dramatically
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really I think as a way to consolidate political power um but that ancient religion that ancient tradition was
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still there in their society and so Christ was able to come in and restore
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that and again you know it gets lost again and then Joseph Smith comes back
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to restore it it's fascinating and so Andrea in like all of your research
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what have been the things that stuck out to you the most that kind of restored your faith in Joseph Smith could not
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have made this all up yeah so a lot of it has to do with the temple and and the Ancient Temple
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what their beliefs were surrounding that what their practices and ordinances were and how that that I know you you and
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David have talked so much about that that three-part procession through the
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temple um and to see that that's not something that's commonly understood in
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broader Christianity that that's not something Joseph Smith as you know the farm boy could have put together because
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how many of us who've studied the gospel for our entire lives have put that together have been through the temple
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have been through the temple and still don't understand it so for me that that really opened my
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eyes up to the fact that this wasn't something that Joseph Smith made up he wasn't a charlatan this this was real
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and this was Revelation and I don't think he even we talk about this all the time he write he puts the Book of Mormon
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he puts all these temple themes in and you know this book in the language of Adam it it explores the temple themes in
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the Book of Mormon and he does all of that and then just like doesn't say anything about it for his whole life and
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so it's like I don't think and maybe he did understand the depth and he he held back and uh you know shared pieces of it
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in the king fall discourse and here and there but um that's that's one of the biggest things that I can't get around
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is why would he do all this thing and then never talk about it again you know right and I think we even see a little
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bit of that with the Book of Mormon because my understanding and I could be mistaken on this was that he quoted from
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the Bible more than the Book of Mormon in his sermons it's almost like he knew the Bible better than the Book of Mormon
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which if he' made it up yeah he he would be quoting from that all if he's trying to convince people that he you know
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didn't write this you think he'd be he'd be doing it but it just kind of seemed like this was given me here it is everybody right and that was it it's
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really strange yeah so then growing out of that research and my coming to understand that what we have in the
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gospel is a restoration of the ancient gospel and understanding more about the temple and the purpose for it
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um that's where I really started to dig into what those ancient marriage Customs were okay and to see a lot of symbolism
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there um and then to start finding in the Book of Mormon which was amazing and
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it gave me an understanding of why the temple you know we we can understand maybe what the temple is MH but but why
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what does it mean um and popularly in the church we talk about you know you go you go there to get sealed to your your
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spouse and your children are sealed and certainly all of that is true but I think there's a big piece that we're
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missing and I think that piece is understanding what those ancient
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marriage Customs are actually are hey well please educate us I'm okay I'm
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excited all right it's a good teaser there I'm I'm hungry for this okay
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so quiz for you guys okay oh CRA um last General Conference president
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Nelson challenged us to study a certain section of scripture do you remember what it was is it eight it was in the 80s was it
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higher Oh No 109 109 109 okay so let's do it oh I literally just gave a talk on
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Sunday about this section you didn't even I was like um yeah I give a talk on
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section 109 verse 7-9 okay so perfect you're ready for this learning out of
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all the good books words of wisdom yeah which books have the words of wisdom in
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them by the way the good books oh my gosh and wisdom too alright yeah because there's a wisdom is a very loaded term
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it's not we tend to think wisdom am I right on this yeah um we tend to think
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wisdom is a really nice saying that you might hang on your wall mhm but is the name of a God is
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s interesting so did does that mean that Joseph Smith was like saying hey read
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Margaret Barker books before she was even is that what he's saying I think I think what it shows is
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that Margaret Barker has spent a lifetime researching and doing really
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high level academic research through thousands and thousands of ancient records and piece together what Joseph
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Smith had delivered on a to us wow okay all right so where we at in 109 so 109
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let's go to verse about 74 so towards the end okay
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um 73 so this is this is the dedicatory prayer for the Kurland Temple and this
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is how Joseph Smith ends it and remember this prayer was revealed to him okay this wasn't coming off the top of his
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head so it says that th thy Church may come forth out of the dark Wilderness of darkness and shine forth Fair as the
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moon clear as the sun and terrible as an army with banners and be adorned as a bride for that day when thou shalt
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unveil the heavens okay is that a little strange
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why is the church adorned as a bride is that just poetic language yeah or is
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there more to it another good place to see this is the book of Hosea okay Hosea
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chapter 2 um scripture Chase yep we're gonna
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we're going to do some of that today sorry madson's calling me right now sorry Greg tell them hi for me so Hosea chapter 2 yep Hosea chapter
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2 uh one of you want to read verses 19 and and I will betro thee unto me forever
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yay I will and so this is the Lord talking talking to the house of Israel to the house of Israel I will betroth
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thee unto me forever y I will betro thee unto me in righteousness and in judgment
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and in loving kindness and in mercies I will even betro thee unto me in faithfulness and thou shalt know the
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Lord okay why is he speaking in marriage ter terms there isn't that kind of
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strange yeah and I've the New Testament too like as I'm thinking about it like the bridegroom um the the bride the marriage
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feast all the like all the symbolism symbolism right why specifically that
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right so let's let's talk about that for a second go to the famous one we all know the parable of the 10 virgins yes
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it's a classic and that's U Matthew so go to Matthew 24 okay so we're all
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really familiar with this Parable right it's one of the most famous ones in Christianity we're so familiar with it
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that sometimes we miss it and we don't stop to really think about it but when you do stop to think
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about it isn't this the weirdest wedding you've ever heard of mhm the bride
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apparently doesn't know when it's going to happen because these these five virgins are caught off guard why why
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weren't they ready if you if you knew when the wedding was going to take place like how are you caught off guard so
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apparently they didn't know when this wedding was going to happen yeah like you you invited your bridesmaids way
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ahead of time you're married right right yeah my bridesmaids new plenty ahead
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leading into the parable of the 10 virgins this is Jesus giving his Sermon on the Mount of Olives right and they're
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they're asking you know when are you going to come and so if you go to Matthew 24:42 he says watch therefore
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for you know not what hour your Lord Death come okay so that's the setup
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leading into the lay of the 10 virgins they're supposed to be watching because they don't know what hour their Lord
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will come mhm which Lord is if I understand this correctly Lord is a a
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name for husband mhm it can be yes so so he's saying watch therefore you don't know when your husband when your husband
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is coming okay okay which sets up for a really weird wedding ceremony yeah for
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sure so you're just waiting around okay than for they're waiting around and you think aren't we supposed to have a feast
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who's going to get the food ready if you don't know when it's going to be right um and you don't know when the groom's
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going to show up why is Jesus using this as a parable and the thing is it's because this Parable is rooted in those
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ancient Hebrew wedding Customs okay so let's uh let's talk about what those
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were they actually have their origin probably predating but you see it as early as Isaac's marriage to Rebecca mhm
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so did Rebecca know who the groom was ahead of time no no she didn't uh
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who who selected her to be the bride one of his servants yeah who was
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in charge of putting on the wedding uh hosting it it was Isaac's parents right okay yeah um so this is
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all very different from our modern wedding traditions for sure um this yeah
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the servant of the father's servant goes out to get the bride he chooses her and
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we can talk later about why he chose Rebecca what made her bride Worthy and
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then he gives her all these gifts before the wedding like usually you open your gifts after right but he gives her all
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these gifts beforehand and then brings her back she just hops on a camel and
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goes back hundreds of miles to to meet her husband meet her husband she doesn't know how far away he is out yeah um and
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there's some debate about where where she was living and where they were from I think the general consensus is from
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Babylon but if you think of it about it she's a bride called out of Babylon to go Mar into this Covenant family MH um
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that's beautiful so I think a lot of these ancient wedding traditions originate there so there are actually
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three phases to their wedding ceremony um I think it's not unlike the temple
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where there are three phases so the first one is called the shukin which is the matchmaking phase
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and there are a lot of traditions wrapped into each one of these phases so
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this is where they make the formal proposal of marriage um and there will
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be a meal that they have to mark the occasion and it's it's the father of the
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groom chooses the bride and in our culture today that's really strange right 20:18
um but you have to remember that it was in those days marriage was not
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necessarily this you know this love story that you would put in a Disney movie it was to bind certain families
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together join forces um unite kinship groups that kind
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of thing so that's why the the father would select a bride and then he would go to the bride's family and they would
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negotiate what this was what the terms of the contract were going to be um and if you look at it who selected the bride
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for Adam oh yeah it was God the Father God the Father the father chose the bride
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right interesting so this goes Way Way Back one thing that's I think we have to State though is the bride wasn't forced
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into this she had she could accept to choose to accept or reject this Union
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that had been arranged so I kind of like it cuz it's kind of it's kind of like instead of letting your son go out and
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choose a stupid thing you have a wise man that's like I'm going to pick the right wife for you but then she also
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gets to veto the whole thing right and I think that was part of the the wisdom in it um now as a parent I can see that you
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wish you wish you could do the same thing but but yeah it was letting your
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parents who are older and wiser and have more life experience average 18-year-old kid yeah to arrange something that would
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work yeah it is very strange like now that I'm thinking about it the whole Adam and Eve story it's not like we
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don't get a oh Adam picked his wife out of all of these eligible B dated 20
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girls and then no it was the lord gave him a wife right and she was a part of
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she was a handpicked wife a handpicked wife from God okay interesting um so
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then the second phase is called the AOS scene and it's that's the that's more the formal betrayal so the first part is
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selecting the bride coming up with the terms of how this is going to work the agreement between Tinder essentially
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yeah yeah the ancient version swiping face um and now we get to the actual betrayal phase and unlike an our day were
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in engagement is like hey will you marry me yeah okay and then 6 weeks later maybe not yeah yeah this was once
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you're betrothed you were married this was a legally binding thing and you see this before the ceremony even Happ
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before the ceremony even happens um and you see it with Joseph and Mary right
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because they were betrothed and then they separate and she winds up pregnant
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and he's like I got to put her away because this wasn't just breaking an engagement this was breaking a marriage
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contract so interesting thing with these ancient weddings was that they would come together for this
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betrothed and then they would separate for a year a whole year and not see each other not see each
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other what is the function of that okay so we'll talk about that um but to come
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up with this agreement so they would know they did the negotiations in the last part so then this part this phase
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they would sign what's called a ketubah M and that was the formal written wedding
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contract and Jews still do this today there you can look up ketubah on online
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and see pictures of them they're beautiful they come in all shapes and sizes and decorated beautifully um and
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they the interesting thing is anciently they would write the terms of the contract inside of what's called a
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Jerusalem window so it was like an arch and then the terms of the contract written inside of that and then
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decorated beautifully um and it was all about what the groom would do for the bride her only job was to be loyal and
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true yeah his job was I will provide for you I'll provide food I'll provide
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clothing which you think about Christ in The Sermon on the Mount what's he telling them yes think of how the LI are
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exactly so the groom is saying I will provide this this and this for you and if you're ever captured and taken into
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slavery I will redeem you so this all provides a safety net for the bride in a in an
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ancient world where women didn't have a safety net really or maybe today we
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don't like here here's what I'm thinking maybe today women don't have a safety net that's true that's actually when you
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look at like the single motherhood rates right in the United States and what that the implications that has on what's
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happening in our society for sure we look back and this is this is why one of
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the sorry I'm going to go on a little right I love it I love it this is why one of the Ten Commandments is honor thy father and thy mother what that means is
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do not disregard those who came before you recognize you're standing on the shoulders of giants and if you're going
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to get rid of something make sure you're ve like it's very intentional and you
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understand the implications because we look back and we smirk and be like oh
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women weren't treated well in the ancient world but maybe that is a complete switch I think women maybe
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aren't treated well in today's world and by that standard it's like people have
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to come and they have to give a thousand gifts to be like please you are such a gift to me I have to give I have to
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convince you of all these things and I am responsible for all of these things
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like exactly to me I look at that and I'm like that seems like they revered women much greater than we rever women
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today well and I think also from our modern perspective we look back on their traditions and look at it as oh they
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thought they were owning their wife and they do talk about it that way that she belongs to him but the thing is that
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belonging is a stewardship and so the the ketubah that they're signing is a
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written statement of that stewardship that he has over her to to take care of
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her to provide for her to be that safety net upon responsibility today we
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don't we don't recognize a lot of those familial responsibilities here they were putting it in writing yeah and then to
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today people take that to the negative extreme only like oh they owned them so they could do whatever they want with
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them it's like no it's like owning something so valuable that you are given this responsibility to take care and
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honor that thing exactly exactly not thing but you know what I'm saying right right and and I think I think that
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attitude gets built into this wedding tradition of yeah so the next step after they sign
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this this ketubah which is all the groom saying what he's going to do for the bride and then she keeps it they would
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actually sign it in triplicate okay there were three copies one for the couple one for the bride's family they
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get to keep a copy to say hey hey son-in-law remember and one to be filed with the
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like the city magistrate City magistrate so there' be a legal copy it's so funny because I I'm just thinking about how
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the marriage has been construed and just perverted in T's world there's like the whole like marriage is just a paper
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right for them it was like it's a p like it's so important we're going to put it on pap we're going to put it on paper you know what I mean it's a complete
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upside down flot right now this dropped my jaw a couple years ago back in 2020
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remember General Conference when President Nelson said we have a new church not logo but symbol and what was
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it it's the Christ mhm in what underneath oh like the arch that you're
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talking about underneath an arch which what do they call that again uh the Jerusalem window the Jerusalem window a blue background ketubah were almost ancient
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ones were almost always on a blue background really so in your perspective you're like wait and
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and the the terms of the contract were all about what the groom's going to do for the bride so who's inside that
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Jerusalem window Christ it's Christ he is the contract he is the Covenant MH
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he's also the groom he's also the bridegroom wow so as soon as that flash up on the screen that's what I saw I was
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like it's a ketubah [Music] okay so cuz I'm I'm thinking about all
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the implications of this all at once because maybe a reason why you never knew when the groom was going to show up is cuz it's it's a sign of the second
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coming type thing okay we'll get to that because not knowing the hour he comes
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doesn't mean well you just don't know it could happen at any random time it's a very
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loaded ID thought okay continue okay so the next thing they signed the ketubah and the groom's family would be
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responsible for providing what they call a mohar and it was a dowry for the bride for and it was our Modern Eyes look at
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it as oh you're buying a bride anciently it was seen as this family's losing their daughter and the part of the
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family she is the help she is to her family and so you have to compensate for that and so they would give this dowry
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and if you think about it what does the word dowry sound like d endowment right
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yeah gift it's a gift and it's not just any gift it's a gift that keeps on giving so my background is actually in in the
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public policy world and working at 501 c3s and nothing could be better than getting an endowment because it would be
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an investment and then the interest would continue to fund our operations so
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an endowment is a gift that keeps on giving it's not a one and done right and
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anciently that endowment that dowry was also intended to be a fail safe for the
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bride so that if her husband Di or left or whatever and she didn't have that
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Financial resource that endowment would be waiting for her it would always provide for her it was insurance for the
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guy screwing things up right which is H it's just hilarious because there is one way you can look at all of this it's
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just like look at these archaic men owning women and trading buying and selling in women or you look at it is
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women are so important that we're not going to let you guys screwed up so we're going to make you make investments
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we're going to make you make contracts I'm I'm the father's or the bride's
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father I'm going to hold you to that contract like that's there are so many fail saes built in because the the woman
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was seen as special and precious and worthy of protecting and surrounding
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with these things cuz all Life starts with a woman right men in many ways are
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from a biological if you just get rid of like our all of our inherent value but if you just look at it biologically men
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are so replaceable that's why we send them off to war cuz like you only need one man but women are the most valuable
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like they're so valuable on an evolutionary biological perspective right so obviously because we believe
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everyone's a child of God men are children of God as well right no I would say men are equally indispensable but
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woman was God's crowning creation yes it was it was the last one after he got his practice in it was like okay I think I
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got this down let's make the best one right um but if you think about it in terms
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terms of our Temple endowments as well that the temple endowment is not just
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another ordinance to you know check off okay I'm on the Covenant path and I check baptism you know check check check
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the endowment is a gift from our bridegroom because of his enduring love
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for us and so it and it's a gift that keeps on giving oh wow
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so side note often times one of the pieces of this dowry would include an
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alabaster box of ointment that would have been used the bride would have kept that so upon to to anoint her husband's
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body with upon his death so do you remember in the scriptures anyone that
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was anointed with oil from an alabaster box mhm Jesus Jesus and who did that
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yeah well it could have been Mary it doesn't explicit let's actually read that I I
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want to read this where is this at in uh the New Testament H off the top of my head is anyone here the top toward the
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end of Matthew Luke Luke 6 there you go good we we human encyclopedia just in
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the corner we keep them here we just have to feed him to ketos and
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uh and give them books okay Luke six wait Luke 6 wait am I in a different
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Luke no it's in a Luke Luke 7 Luke 7 oh he was one chapter off it's all
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good so yeah 36 she brings in an alabaster box
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of ointment stands at his feet behind him weeping begins to wash his feet with tears yeah so it's not explicit of who
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did that and he turned to the woman and said un Simon Okay so where's it at uh verse uh starting 36 is and the
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Pharisees desire the want and behold a woman in the city which was a sinner when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in
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the Pharisees house brought an alabaster box of ointment and stood at the feet behind him weeping and began to wash his
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feet with tears and to wipe them with the hairs of her head and kissed his feet and anointed them with ointment now
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when the Pharisees which had been in him saw it he spake within himself saying this man if he were a prophet would have
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known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him for she is a sinner
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and Jesus said unto her Simon he pretty much just says leave her alone and then he continues and but then
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right after all the way through and then yeah 46 my head which thou with o um
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thou give gavest me no kiss this is what he's saying de sment but this woman s
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the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet my head with oil thou did not anoint but this woman hath anointed
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my feet with ointment wherefore I say unto thee her sins which are many are forgiven for she loved much but to whom
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little Is Forgiven the same loveth little and then right after that is when you are introduced to Mary Magdalene
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so what could be thought and what some like some scholars believe is that this woman
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who came in is Mary Magdalene right right and and regardless of her name or
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identity she's she's the woman she's the woman bringing in this Alabaster Box to
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anoint Christ unto his death MH and if you think about it in more the
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archetypical AR archetypal archetypal thank you it's all good I thinking typical that's all right archetypal term
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um this is the woman coming to anoint the bridegroom MH right and so this has
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its roots in those ancient tradition so that happens so the woman would anoint the
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bridegroom after that year right before they were going to get married before his death so the woman would receive the
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alabaster box as part of her dowry and she would retain that until his passing and use the oil to anoint him okay we we
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read that story and think this was a woman that had this a nice box that had some nice oil in it and she decided to
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be nice and come show her affection for Jesus um there's more to the story MH
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that this was probably something from her dowry that she had been given and she's recognizing Christ as the
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bridegroom yeah who would fulfill the terms of his contract to redeem her
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because she had been taken captive by sin she she like all of us needed to be redeemed from her sins yeah um and when
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you think of a redeemer anciently they would come and pay the Redemption price
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you know you want if your family member was taken into slavery or they were a dead or something if you wanted to set
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them free you would pay the Redemption price if you are setting a human soul free from the Eternal cost of sin what's
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the price the life of a a god mhm right yeah an eternal soul to set free from
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sin um so I think that's what the woman with the alabaster box was recognizing that this was the bridegroom who could
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redeem her who could free her from those sins and so the appropriate thing to do
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would be to take that that alabaster box of ointment intended for the bridegroom
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wow that's cool so okay so back to the signing of this
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formal betroll agreement they um the in addition to the dowry the the groom would
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give what was called the maton and it was gifts that he would give personally to the bride as a token of his love for
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her that he would be waiting for her and that it be a reminder to her of him
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something to remember him by during this year-long separation they were going to have we also get tokens yeah to remind
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us mhm um of our bridegroom of our bridegroom wow that's really cool um and
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you see this too with the parable he shares of the woman with the Lost coin remember and she like she's pulling up
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the floorboards looking for this lost coin and we take it as meaning that's the amount of effort we should put into
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looking for the lost sheep MH there's context here because the coin she was
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looking for wasn't just a piece of money and she would have worn a veil with the
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coins sewn onto the edging and you've seen that in Middle Eastern cultures right so those were the coins that the
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groom would have given her that was that was her maton okay and they sew those coins onto their
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headdress as a sign that they were married and so this coin she's looking
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for would be the equivalent of losing your very expensive wedding ring and I'm
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sure you know people who've lost their wedding ring what do they do like they freak out and you do everything you can
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to find it I have a relative who lost one while they were scuba diving on their honeymoon and they had to hire a professional diver to come in and
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retrieve it and you go to extreme means to get that wedding back that's what it
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was for her that's why she was so worried and going to so much
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effort to find that coin because it was from the bridegroom a sign of her marriage it's a sign of her marriage and
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that's how important the tokens are so the signs and tokens that you have are a
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sign of your marriage to like the symbolic marriage to Christ exact exactly oh my gosh this is so fun I love
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this I've never got into this stuff I my mind is blown I'm going to have to take a nap after this um one question I don't
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want to derail you too much but I was just looking up uh Alabaster Box in the scriptures and the other account of this
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anointing in Matthew 26 um it just talks about the girl it
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says There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment
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and poured it on his head as he sat at meat and then his disciples got mad and then he
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says for in that she hath poured this ointment on my body she did it for my burial right right
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yeah so that one's like even more explicit yeah um and it's interesting to keep this in the back of your mind that
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H how did she put the the ointment on him did did she dab it on pour it right
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so if you got someone pouring oil over your head what does your face look like it's shiny right shiny keep that in the
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back of your mind we might Circle back to that if we have time okay and one other thing too I I want to point out is
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that in this one the the other one is is Str and this is the weird thing about the gospels is
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like you get the same stories but there's some slight differ perspectives different perspectives this one he's sitting the one in Luke he's sitting at
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the Pharisees house and it kind of seems like it's some random woman that comes in and puts it puts the alabaster oil on
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but this one it seems like he's hanging out with his disciples and someone that they know yeah she's there she's part of
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comes in point po pours the oil on and what you're saying is that the oil in the alabaster box was given to the wife
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of of the bridegroom of the bridegroom yeah okay yeah and then she pours it
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over his head pours it yeah Jesus could never be married because that would be like Blasphemous and even though rabbis
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were expected to have been married in his day for sure Jack did you just find something else well I just want can I
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read the next because it also gives more information so it says and being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper
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as he sat at meat there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of Spiker very precious and she break the
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box and poured it on his head and there were some they get mad at him at the woman and then Jesus says let her alone
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why trouble ye her she hath wrought a good work on me for ye have the
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poor she hath done what she could she is come a forehand to anoint my body to the
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burying so maybe the reason they're mad is because they're like they're recognizing
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what's actually happen like he's going to be killed and this is during a tense time near the end of his ministry and
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she comes in breaks this oil and it's kind of like why are you doing this he's not going to maybe it's a little bit of
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denial potentially I mean there's other there's other passages that indicate they were very much in denial I mean he told them I'm going to die and they said
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no you're not you know you got Simon Peter in there with his sword yeah the very end so but that also begs
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a question how did she know he was going to die how was she privy to that information yeah this wasn't just some
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random woman had to be very to right this is somebody close to him oh my goodness this is amazing okay on to the
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next part this is so awesome we're just getting started I know you've got some a more illustrious guest coming in later
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but whatever no um so okay so they're back to this
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formal betothral ceremony um and this is where the bride has her opportunity to accept this engagement
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the father and his groom would come to the door of her house and knock and if she opened the door that means she
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accepted if she didn't sorry does that bring any passages to mind the father
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and the bridegroom stand at the door and knock yeah and if any open let him come
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in yeah so um Christ says I stand at the
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door and knock this isn't just a nice metaphor that Christ stands at the door
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of my life will I let him in I mean it is that yes but this is this is the
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bridegroom this is marriage talk this is if you open that door you're you're
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married to Christ yeah like you are accepting not just accepting him into
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your life you're accepting that you are now bound to him that you are going to
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be loyal and true to him for the rest of your life that this is who you're going to follow wow
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so it's just like I have to reread the scriptures again you know what I mean like Dave daavid Mike Day come into my
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into this place and they're like hey the the three-part Temple just like the
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endowment they blow my mind with this and now you're sharing me like with the marriage and I'm just like crap I have
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to reread it all again twice well and I think when we look at the three-part Temple we're also seeing the three-part
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marriage ceremony we're we're seeing the the terms of the the marriage
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given and then we're seeing the the bride accepting the betrothal and then
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we're seeing the actual marriage which we haven't got to that part yet but re
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real quick before we continue traditional Scholars don't think that marriage happened in the temple cuz in
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the temple the only thing that happened was a guy killed a thing brought it up once a year and he'd spread it out on
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the high priest would go in the high priest would go in and that's it right but if you look at Eden the G of Eden
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being a temple mhm where where was that's where they were married that's where they were married right and so wow
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and they were cast out and they have to find their way back in right it's it's our story yeah and the one that makes it
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possible to go in there is Christ is the bridegroom MH Christ
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so um and and this is the stuff that started you know I I started to see the parallels between the Ancient Temple and
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the ancient customs and and our temples today but this the the metaphor of the
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marriage made it so much more meaningful to me and it moved Beyond just the symbolism but it changed how I see my
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covenants and into just being okay we do these ordinances and you know if you've
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completed all the ordinances you're good to go it it became no this is very much
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about creating a relationship with Christ these are the steps we go through to indicate that relationship and to
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grow in that relationship and that that the Covenant isn't just a piece of paper it
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is a relationship mhm and the one who does everything in the Rel relationship
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by the way is the groom he the Bri Grom yeah all the bride has to do which is all of us that enter into Covenant is be
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loyal and true be loyal and true faith in Jesus Christ and that's what Christ says right if you love me do what keep
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my Commandments keep my Commandments that's it simple right H that's all the bridegroom asks of the
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Bride is love me and keep my Commandments I need to step it up Jackson I feel like we need to step it
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up holy cow always always okay so and that's where we get
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this idea from Hosea that we read earlier I betro Thee unto me forever that's a betrothal was forever it wasn't
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you know okay we'll be engaged for a few months while we plan the wedding is this you're married once you're betrothed you're married um um so at this point
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the groom would then oh they would share a cup of you know the bride would open the door accept the the proposal and
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then they would share Bread and Wine I don't know if that brings up any
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familiar things to you like maybe you do it every Sunday um but they would as a sign of their agreement they would eat
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bread and share a cup of wine and there's actually four cups of wine in still in Jewish wedding ceremonies and
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they actually have names so we'll get to that a little bit later cups of wine okay gosh my
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brain um okay so they would they'd go through that whole ceremony the kba signed the Dow's given the groom's gifts
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are given they've had the the bread and the wine um and they the groom would
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then leave and go back to his father's house what did Jesus say he was doing
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when he left I go to prepare a place for you right he's
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[Laughter] bro so that was what the husband did he
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that's what the husband did he go back to his father's estate usually like some compound or something the family the
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family home and he would build a home for his bride that's what he spent the year doing that's why it took a year he
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would have to build a house for her to live in that's why it took a year so wow
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yeah so when Christ says he goes to prepare a place for us that's what he's doing
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holy cow really really cool by the way he's building mansions he's building mansions yeah so that takes takes a
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little extra time that's why we're waiting on right wait just just to ask so this like obviously all this
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information about the ancient um marriage ceremony and how it all worked
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the betrothal and everything this is coming jointly from the scripture sources and also ancient records attest to all of
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this and I see you have like the sing of notes could we get that and like include it maybe in the description sure and I
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actually have images I can send you to if you want to drop those in because I'm just thinking about this right now the
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first coming of Christ is the betrothal yes the second coming is when he comes to
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pick us up and he's like I got the The Mansions yeah just wait it gets it gets bigger gets bigger all right chill out
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am I off base yet David I'm just enjoying this the live studio audience if you
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need to reel me in I got Luke s Wrong yeah don't trust him for anything we got
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Dave here in the corner and he's just like I'm just sitting here I'm the studio audience and I have nothing to add because CU I got Luke 7even
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wrong hey it was way closer than I got so okay so yeah the groom leaves to go
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prepare a place for his bride and in the meantime the bride starts preparing
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herself for the actual wedding ceremony and so she would be learning skills that
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she would need as a wife and a mother but she'd also be preparing the wedding
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dress like and you still see you know we still do this today right the bride goes and prepares a wedding dress um but as
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part of that she would take this long strip of fabric four or five Ines wide
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fairly long and she would embroider on it things that were meaningful like the
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the family symbols the family genealogy you know just anything that was meaningful to to the family that
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favorite sports team logo yeah you know like that yeah and so she would take time embroidering this and it would be
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embroidered on both sides so that there wasn't a wrong side and at the wedding ceremony this would be wrapped around
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the bride and Groom would hold hands and it would be wrapped around to symbolize that binding Covenant and that's where
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we that's where we get the term tying the knot okay okay yes interestingly
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this sash if you will would when a child was born to the couple they would use
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that to swaddle the child as a sign that this child is born into our covenant oh
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my gosh so when you see Jesus being wrapped in swaddling clothes sometimes we think that means Rags yeah it was not
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Rags this was a sign that even though Joseph wasn't the father he was his
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father he was part of that family and part of that Covenant and he was not illegitimate he was he belonged to them
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wow born in the marriage covenant such a beautiful cuz we talk about that all the time born in the Covenant and uh I
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thought I remember you saying that they actually catch the baby when they're born with that is that true or is that just what they wrap them in I don't know
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if they would so interestingly though and this is still I think a tradition in a lot of Middle Eastern cultures they
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would anoint the baby with oil and they'd rub salt into them and then
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they'd wrap them once they were clean they'd wrap them in the swaddling clothes um and the oil
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and the salt are very symbolic of Covenant making mhm so wow I want to
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get married again and do it like this I know seriously I need to teach my wife
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how to sew dude we'll put on for like our when we're like 25 years married
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with our wives we'll put on a whole site we W see our wi for like go build
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house in the forest dude this is what we're doing sorry babe I mean we kind of
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yeah we're kind of doing that I think your wives will be like did not agree to this door
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shut hilar anys um okay
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so yeah they're separated for a year they're doing their preparations how do you know when the weddings oh by the way
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there would also have been an invitation sent out to all the wedding guests at this point M you know hey these two are
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going to get married in a year is um just be ready and if you as a wedding
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guest accepted the invitation you would tie your robe on the opposite shoulder to indicate you had accepted the
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invitation really yeah and you would keep it like that you would keep it tied that way so that you wouldn't have to
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accept invitations that would conflict with it strange yeah ponder that one for
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a little bit okay so now the question is when's the
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wedding going to happen the bride knows roughly when and most ancient weddings
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took place in the fall because it was the Harvest was done now it's a time to celebrate and people don't have to go
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work in the fields and we got time for it and we got food so the fall was a good time to to do this so the bride has
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some idea roughly when it's going to happen um which makes but she doesn't
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know what she's like she doesn't know the day or the hour but she can tell
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that the seasons are changing exactly the Harvest so the field is white ready to harvest Bingo get ready for the
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wedding he's coming back yeah exactly dude I have to see all
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these sources because this is so insane that I'm just like this is wild
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so yeah she doesn't know the day or the hour and and that has even more SE
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meaning even beyond that and we can talk about that in a little bit um and the groom doesn't even know because Jesus
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says they ask Jesus when are you coming back and he tells them what who knows who knows when only my father only my
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father not even groom does do even know the groom doesn't even know it's pretty much like go build your house go get
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your wedding dress made and the only one who knows when this is going to happen is the father of the groom really he's
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the only one who knows the exact day and hour and that's exactly what Jesus tells his disciples is no man knoweth not even I
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not even the angels my father only he's the only one who knows yeah this is this
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is Hebrew wedding speak okay and then somehow you know the Great apostle comes
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along and Priests are like we can't get married married marriage bad marriage bad that's the only way to be holy the
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whole gospel is embedded in this marriage context because it's our Salvation The Plan of Salvation is a
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wedding Motif and that's why the the ceiling ordinance is the the last ordinance that you perform exactly the
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temple so and the way that the Father the groom
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decides it's time for the wedding is he sees if his son is ready that's all about when his son has made the adequate
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preparations when that when he's done building the house when everything's ready to go when he can welcome a new
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bride into their family respectful respectfully so that and this is also an
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honor and shame Society right where there's a lot of Honor into how you how you do things so he's not going to let
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his son just throw up aan too and call it good like you need to do the best you can and get everything really prepared
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really ready for her to come yeah and when the Father the groom sees that he'll say okay go get your bride and
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that's when the wedding happens and that's also when they send out a reminder invitation to all those
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guests who accepted the first invitation okay it's happening now here's your here's your second
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invitation and you see this crop up in the parable of the wedding Feast um
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where the King has this wedding for his son right and he says okay tells his
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servant go out and get all those who were bidden to the WD they were bidden they were already invited they'd already accepted the first invitation but they
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reject the second yeah right so that's the context of this and they usually had about 30 minutes to prepare to get to
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the wedding which if you think about like the half hour of Silence it's another 30 minutes
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so so to go get the bride this would usually happen at night um real quick pause real quick before we move on to
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the next scene because I have to share this we talk about how Adam had to participate in creation right so Adam
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was participating in creation which means that he would have helped make the garden and then what happens is Adam is
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there he's in the garden he goes to sleep and then he comes back I love that I had thought that his bride and then
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then his bride is there yeah yep wow see it's all over it's this stuff is all
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over the scriptures and once you see it you can't unsee it under the command of the father you go and you build your house once the house is built then the
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father will say all right here is the the bride he no he'll say go get your bride go get your bride yes okay um so
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at that point the groom would gather up his buddies and it's usually at night um
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which is symbolic as well the groom bridegroom comes in the darkest point so
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they would all get their oil lamps lit and they it'd be a party right this is a very festive very happy joyous occasion
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and so they head out to start towards the bride's house uhhuh now the bride remember she doesn't know the day near
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the hour so but she taking her makeup
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off but she knows the season so she and her attendance were supposed to be ready
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at any moment um they were supposed to have that extra oil in case he came
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later in the night than they thought he would and they were supposed to be watching and what does Christ tell his disciples all the time watch we read
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that in Matthew 24 watch because the bridegroom comes in an hour you think not so he's coming later than you thought he
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was which sometimes I feel like we're at that point that that
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um the parable of the 10 virgins is already making more sense now that I understand because makes sense that
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Parable is not just some madeup story it's using real elements of daily life
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in Christ's time um so she so the bride and her attendant would be watching and
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listening because the other thing is as the groom and his buddies start their procession towards the brides home
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they'd be blowing trumpets and then there's there would be a best man basically they call him the friend of
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the groom who would be designated to run ahead and blow the trumpet to warn the
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bride and her attendance groom's on his way now this this is kind if you know
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about the the Jewish Jewish feasts there's seven main feasts throughout the year one of them is rosashana and
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or Yom Tera which is the day of trumpets yeah it's the day of blowing trumpets it's also the day that no man knoweth
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it's referred to as that because you didn't know exactly when Roshes Shana would begin okay uh because yeah there's
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more to that so and is that a fall is it a fall it's in the fall usually September is
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October usually Falls in there on the Hebrew calendar so um interestingly you
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have this friend of the groom running ahead to warn the bride and he's blowing
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a trumpet and it's all of this is embedded
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in the Feast of roshes Shana who came on Roshes in the modern
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timeoni veroni okay yeah he came to Joseph Smith SE on Ros hasana like he
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came on rosashana you have man how did Joseph Smith know the Hebrew holidays I know he
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was amazing as a for as a was September 21st or no September 17th September 17th
1:00:00
the Hebrew calendar isn't aligned with ours so it falls on different dates on our calendar but in that year when when
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moronai came to Joseph Smith it was on Roshes Shana for that year um and how do
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we now depict moronai it's with a trumpet yeah blowing a trumpet right so
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he's Jesus's best buddy running up like he's coming and and and what did he come to
1:00:24
bring uh The Book of Mormon right and what's the purpose of the Book of Mormon to prepare us it's a final warning to
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prepare for the bridegroom this is such such complex theology that I
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just and this is like one of the 10 complex theologies We've ran into in the last year what did you just say complexi
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yeah uhhuh what is that a thing complex like a complexi oh you're
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saying two words here complex theology yes I thought you said complex youtube
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you're that's what he does in his work I'm done right now comp lexology no
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but wow sorry I'm learning so much keep teaching
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us please okay so yeah um and you get pictures of this in in
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the Old Testament too Isaiah uses words that in Hebrew actually mean this is the groom coming out of his chamber like
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coming to get his bride it's Isaiah 26: 19 um it uses that word hadir which is the
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chambers of the bridegroom that he's coming out so this is when you understand these Isaiah starts to make a
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lot more sense as well okay um so the groom comes out he's coming with his
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procession to come get the bride this is when the bride and her attendance you know they they're supposed to be
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listening for the trumpet and they're supposed to be watching for the lights of the procession coming in the dark of
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night so just like Jesus tells us you need to watch and listen present tells
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us to hear him we're supposed to be listening yes um side note the groom would dress as well and and special
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wedding Garb Garb and he would wear white they almost always wore white um
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often times if the family could afford it he would wear a crown of gold mhm because on their wedding day the bride
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and groom were considered to be a king and a queen and you think about Temple terms now
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right um he would also anoint himself with frankincense and myrrh you want to
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smell good on your wedding day um who else was anointed with frankincense and myrrh Christ right that's what the three
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wise men brought why were they wise that gets back to the wisdom stuff we can talk about another time yeah but he was
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the bridegroom being Anointed with this so all this all the symbols are there of Christ being the
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bridegroom of us being the bride and this Covenant relationship we have the opportunity to enter into so you get
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this joyful procession coming the fr the friend of the groom runs ahead he gives the bride about 30 minutes to prep
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um and she would then once she saw him coming she and her attendants would get
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their oil lamps and they would go out and start their own procession to go meet up and when you think about Christ
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says draw near unto me and I will draw near unto you it's this bride and groom
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coming closer and closer drawing closer to each other in preparation for that wedding and all of this language it's
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crazy how much of this language is tied up into this yeah celebration ordinance
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right and it indicates how important weddings were to them how important marriage was and we've lost so much of
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it we just Stomp all over that as a society so once they met up the groom and his guys would be
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carrying what was called an airion and you know you've seen this kind of thing ancient where you got four guys and they
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have the poles running shoulder Tosh shoulder and the platform on them and they would lift the bride up onto that
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and carry her back to the the home of the father for the wedding feast and ceremony it's called the lifting up of
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the Bride MH now you can go through the scriptures and look at how many times Christ refers to I will lift you up so
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he would he would lift her up and they would carry her to the home of the
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father and this is where where the the door would be closed and bolted shut so
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those five unwise virgins that had to go try to buy oil in the middle of the night they come
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back and they knock on the door you know let us in let us in um Lord Lord have we
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not professed in thy name and what does he tell him ye never knew me or I never knew you right Joseph
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Smith has there's a jst on this one where he says so one of one of the two he says you never knew me or I never
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knew you in ancient times the door was usually left open during the day people could
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come and go but at night you would you would Bolt the door and you got that big bolt that goes across right and so at
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night once the wedding procession had all gone in they would shut the door and bolt it so the only way to know who was
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at the door was by their voice MH and so you're not looking at each other you
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can't see each other it's by your voice the recognition does the groom recognize
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your voice on the other side yeah and if he does he might let you in but if he
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doesn't recognize your voice because you haven't interacted enough you haven't conversed enough your voice isn't familiar to him or his isn't familiar to
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you or you don't know the right things to say or you don't know the right things to say when he ask you questions when he asks you questions to confirm
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your identity that is very familiar the idea that there is a barrier between you and
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the bridegroom the Lord right and you don't see him he presumably doesn't see
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you right and the only thing you know is can you answer these questions and right
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right does he know your voice and do you have the the other things right do you have enough of a relationship with him
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that he would know you by your voice wow it could even be you know not only do you know the right questions and the
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right answers and things to say but have you prayed to him enough that he knows your voice MH I thought it was
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really interesting when elder Holland recently told us we should try to pray vocally as often as possible yeah we
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need to exercise our voice speak with our voice to the bridegroom yep that's how God created is
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through words being spoken right so um okay so the door gets bolted shut
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um those the five unwise virgins were left out um and they go into the wedding
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feast and it's interesting that here you know if you add in the parable
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of the king's um wedding Feast that that he's throwing for his
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son it says many were called but few were chosen and why were they not chosen
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and the jst here explains because they had not on the wedding garment they had been invited about a year prior right
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uhhuh and they'd accepted the invitation but they either rejected the second invitation didn't come or they
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didn't put on the wedding garment that the king would have provided and Elder Bednar in October 2022 conference gave a
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beautiful talk on this um and what it means to have that wedding garment to be
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ready so yeah if if the groom's father was a king or of wealthy means he he
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would often provide white wedding clothing for all the guests to wear and
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so in that Parable you get this guest showing up to the king's Feast the king
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calls him friend indicating that they know each other um this is someone who
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accepted the invitation prior but he comes in and refuses to wear the white wedding clothes mhm and you can tell in
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the parable the king is hurt by this this is a rejection of the king so a rejection of that invitation by a friend
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by someone who had already accepted it and is now rejecting it so it's interesting to to look at that Parable
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in the context of these wedding traditions um um and what what they really mean in both cases it says to
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throw that servant or to throw the friend where where do they send the friend Jackson you got it there outer
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Darkness outer Darkness okay Darkness now think about this for a minute a wedding that's happening at
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night and all the the wedding party goes in the door is shut and bolted so this
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whole showing up this all happens in one night where the actual wedding's happening okay and so it's just any
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night this is so fun why don't we do do this with our weddings so any night during the season they show up and the
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whole wedding happens that yeah which you imagine this would actually be pretty exciting stuff right like I don't
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know when he's going to come I'm watching I'm watching like when's he going to show up the anticipation would be really fun and then he comes and you
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have this whole processional through the town with you know your oil lamps at night like how cool is that it would be
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really well only one person getting married a year like this would be stressful to have like multiple
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whole I know if all your friends are getting married yeah I don't know I don't know how that worked that's
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awesome okay so that servant that shows up and refuses to wear the king's wedding garment he gets cast out into
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outer darkness and in our mind we think oh that's like really bad right think
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about this in more terrestrial terms like if you are having a wedding at
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night and you're not allowed to be in there and you get kicked out of the king's Palace where are you you're just out in the dark you're out in the dark
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right same thing with the five unwise virgins right they get to that door that's bolted they can't go into the
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wedding where all the lights are they're stuck outside in the dark that's the outer Darkness yeah these Parables make
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so much more sense now because it's night time everyone else is asleep except for the people that are invited
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to this wedding right then the only house in that Village is that's going to be filled with light and life and
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there's feasting and everything going on is that house and so you get cast out and you're just like all right I guess I
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got to go back to my dark house every single person they they so everyone brings their own lamps to the wedding
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and so it's everyone's lamps that light the wedding Feast well right right and
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this is this is a topic that could go down another rabbit hole but is where did they get the oil from the wise
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virgins had the oil wise virgins yeah where did oil come from in ancient times
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where did they get the oil from olives right they press olive from the tree so the wise okay see the connection here
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between wisdom and the tree and the oil and the woman who's pouring the oil to
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anoint the bridegroom Mike's like I have to rewrite my books just kidding by mik
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Yeah by Dave yeah that's what I meant that's a worse mess up than Luke 7 yeah that's a worse mess up than Luke 7
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bro holy cow yeah so there's a reason why the wife or the woman pours the oil
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over the bridegroom and you think about where she got the oil from Frome from
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the Tree of wisdom and of life
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okay continue okay so this is going to be a long one I'm
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I'm so pumped though I'm sorry no like I said I've been studying this for like 20
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years and off and on in between raising children but there's so much to this and
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I feel like I'm just skimming over the surface but okay so they everybody goes
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into the wedding Feast the door is shut the celebration begins um and you can
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think about what they what the bride and groom must have been feeling like after such a long separation I mean my husband
1:12:10
and I had a six-month engagement that felt like a really long time like this this is long right so just the the
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joy and the festivities and so then they go in they launch into a s-day wedding Feast seven being a significant number
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but um it's 7day wedding Feast 7-Day wedding Feast what does that even look like I
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would like to know like a massive Super Bowl party for seven days I think it's a
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little different from most LDS receptions though uhhuh and that's why you understand like keeping enough wine
1:12:44
to be able to uh get that going also shame on people that don't have good food at their wedding reception no or or
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they don't have a DJ I would say that like music it's a party oh yeah oh for sure for sure I mean they had music that
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whole procession that the groom's procession as he comes to get his bride that was music they were beating drums they were blowing Trumpets like it was a
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party if you don't get a DJ at your wedding repent okay that's what I'm
1:13:11
saying wed I don't want to come and just stand in the line and say hi to you I'll do that but I need good food and I need
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a DJ dude we need to sorry we are just going off here but we need to make a shirt on wi it's apparel make weddings
1:13:25
again I love it I love it that's amazing that could be sick yeah that would break
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don't do it okay oh that's great I need the T-shirt yeah um yeah so it w it was
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a huge party just really joyous occasion this was a huge celebration and I feel
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like we like you guys mentioned we've kind of lost that in our culture our modern culture where it's like you show
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up you do the wedding you do the reception you leave it's not this Gathering of like the whole family is
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there and it's a 7 day celebration I mean it would be hard in our society now but that's what they did um and when you
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read Revelation and it talks about this wedding Feast that's what it's talking about it's not just this nice wedding
1:14:10
this nice wedding metaphor it is this joyous celebration with the bridegroom
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and this final Union that has been long awaited understanding that opens up not
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only the book of Isaiah but Revelation as well you see it in the wedding context
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um yeah so at this point the bride and groom would have share another cup of wine they'd go under the Hoopa um Jews
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still do this today and you know they they drink the wine they stomp on the glass um so nobody else can drink out of
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that glass it's ours it's ours yeah okay that's one of the other cups of wine right actually there were two cups that
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they would drink then and one was called the cup of Salvation I'll I'll get to it what the other cups were
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called um so at this point they've by the time they're married
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married they've had three cups of wine okay there's a fourth cup that's called
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The Cup of Wrath or the cup of bitterness or the cup of judgment it's all those terms are used for it what cup
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did Jesus say he drank the bitter cup yeah so it's even built into this
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ancient tradition that the bridegroom would drink the bitter cup so his bride
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would not have to really so yeah actually actually you're not you're not
1:15:30
lying to us right now no there were four cups that were supposed to be drunk and in typical weddings I don't think the groom would drink a bitter cup it was
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just that there was supposed to be a bitter Cup who's going to drink it MH the only one that we know of is the
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bridegroom of us all who drank the bitter cup okay so we would not have
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wedding imagery holy cow um yeah it's more of that wedding imagery um okay so
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then and this would be kind of weird for us in our day but then the bride and groom would go into the place he had
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prepared to to consummate the marriage while everybody else is feasting and celebrating MH um for us that'd be a
1:16:10
little awkward but that that's how they did that's all you're thinking about like in your wedding night you're just like everyone
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leave you know what I mean when this party going to end um
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but and again this would be really strange to but there's some powerful symbolism here that the bride and groom
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would go to consummate the marriage and the bride would bring with her a piece of embroidered cloth this white cloth
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that she would have embroidered and it would the consummation would happen there and this was to prove her
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virginity MH so there would need to be some blood on that cloth if she were a virgin bride if heard this before if she
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comes out and there's no blood on the cloth and she's not a virgin mhm she can be stoned to death at that point so you
1:16:55
go from party to you but this is this is the choice that Joseph Mary's husband
1:17:01
had to make because she was clearly not cuz they were betrothed they were betrothed and you know it says espoused
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that's what it means that they were in that betrothal to be married yeah and he hadn't seen her and he knew he hadn't
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seen her cuz they had to stay apart for a year so he knew it wasn't him and she's
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pregnant that's why it's a public that's why it was going to be a public display like he could hide it he had to Bear the
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burden of and it was yeah it was up to him to decide if she would be stoned or what would happen with her and he had
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every right to have her stoned and he's he was the kind of man that was like no I'll just put her away privily I we'll
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just I'll give her the rid of divorcement and he was a good enough man
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and cared enough about her that he wasn't going to do that um
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but if you're not a virgin if you go into that ceremony and you are not a virgin mhm the penalty is death right
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yeah so you think about what is the actual if we are the bride and none of us are
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innocent what's our penalty death death so again we need a redeemer who can pay
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that price and the thing the the beautiful part about this is when Christ
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the bridegroom comes out of there with his bride the scriptures talk about she doesn't get she doesn't get stoned right she's
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celebrated but we all know none of us were virgins going in there we've all screwed up and done stuff wrong whose
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blood's on the cloth Christ Christ's mhm yeah he shed
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his blood for us wow so that's powerful imagery and it
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yeah you're right it sounds strange to our our modern ears but if you can just
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put that to the side and think think symbolically and what these symbols mean it's it's amazing right he's he's the
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bridegroom that shed his blood to cover our sins oh now I get it oh I didn't I
1:19:08
didn't it didn't make sense before so like in this sort of scenario he like goes in the back room where you're
1:19:13
supposed to consummate your marriage Blood on the he puts his blood on the cloth to come out and show cuz
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the father cuz that's who they're show they showing to is the father that she is a virgin wild it's kind of
1:19:28
wild like strange but it is strange but the symbolism is amazing right he's
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literally covered our sins in his blood he comes wearing a red robe
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covered in our blood right before this I thought like
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oh this might draw some nice parallels or whatever but this is it dude like
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I the symbolism is crazy I just didn't know how much the marriage all encompassing yeah and think about it in
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Revelation it talks about when Christ returns so he it talks about that he will lift up his Saints they're lifted
1:20:09
up and I don't know how literal this is but they're lifted up they go to be with Christ right they're going into that
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wedding chamber and when they come out it talks about the Saints are clothed in
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white linen and he is wearing red so that's what this is talking about
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when you think of what Jesus did for you that's why our robes are white is
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because he's willing to wear the red robe exactly the peanut gallery I suggest
1:20:38
here just two verses to read please yeah grab grab the or what of the well R you
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you guys read it jackson can you look up Genesis 224
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yes is recognizing Genesis 224 judge Joshua 238 Joshua I love that you know
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this off the 224 Genesis 224 Genesis 224 cuz this is very old stuff this is
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not just new testament stff which one should read should he read his first Jackson should go first Genesis 2:24
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okay Genesis 2 we're in the garden sorry I'm like okay this is so good this is so
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good Genesis 2:24 says the following therefore shall a man leave his father
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and his mother and shall cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh cleave is deoc okay cleave is deoc here talk
1:21:31
here just talk in the mic talk in the mic so he can hear so cleave here is devac which is also going to appear in
1:21:38
Joshua 238 which there are sorry I'm like off camera which there are many
1:21:44
passages that sound like this in the Old Testament I've just picked one okay yes and it's uh but cleave unto the Lord
1:21:51
your God as ye have done unto this day so you're supposed to just like as Adam
1:21:57
is supposed to cleave to his wife that's the context of Genesis 224 is Adam and
1:22:03
Eve right and husband and wife cleave together and the Commandment to cleave
1:22:09
to Yahweh is repeated multiple times in the Old Testament in in fact Jewish
1:22:14
mysticism is said to be different from Eastern mysticism because Eastern mysticism is often about seeking to
1:22:21
cease to exist Nirvana Jewish mysticism is Dev cot which is cleaving you are
1:22:28
cleaving to Yahweh okay wow BR and like
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marriage and then in the New Testament you get Jesus saying he's praying to his
1:22:39
father that these with him will be one with him as I am with you it's the same
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understanding the same Oneness do we know anything about like the actual marriage are are there any Embraces or
1:22:52
anything that happened between the husband and the wife during the yeah yeah so that's when they would go under the hoopa and they would hold hands and
1:22:58
they would bind you know Ty the not literally um with that sash so they cleave together right um and they would
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exchange vows and um share that cup of wine okay yeah and then it would be
1:23:13
considered now you are now that marriage is complete and you can go on to live
1:23:19
the rest of your married lives okay so yeah so they consummate the marriage we got that part now what happens yeah so
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um the bride would actually it she would bring 10 Witnesses so the number 10 in
1:23:34
the 10 virgins wasn't random random um she would have 10 witnesses there for
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her side the groom would have two witnesses so that when they come out to show the cloth mhm you have the truth of
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it established on both sides and who would the witnesses be is it choose choose from among their friends awesome
1:23:53
um oh this was one other thing I wanted to say though was back in the signing of the
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katubah they would have two witnesses sign that marriage agreement and they usually were not part of the family it
1:24:06
was considered more of a legal thing the other day I was looking at my temple recommend mhm and it has on one
1:24:13
side that image of Christ in the Jerusalem window and on the other side has signatures from two signatures yeah
1:24:21
so I just thought that was interesting yeah so so yeah now they now the feast
1:24:26
begins and you and it explains why if you turn to Mark chapter
1:24:32
2 this will suddenly make sense D High School me thinking that I'd be like so excited about scriptures or reading it's
1:24:42
hilarious oh where it go yeah Mark chapter 2: 19 and 20 okay you want me to
1:24:47
read it yeah that'd be great and Jesus said unto them can the children of the
1:24:53
Bride chamber f fast while the bridegroom is with them as long as they
1:24:58
have the bridegroom with them they cannot fast but the days will come when the bridegroom shall be taken away from
1:25:05
them and then shall they fast in those days okay so the Jews are asking Jesus
1:25:12
why don't your disciples fast and he says the bridegroom is here we can't fast if if you and your buddies are at
1:25:19
your wedding and it's a 7-Day Feast are you fasting no so what he's doing here
1:25:25
is saying I'm the bridegroom we're not fasting because I'm the bridegroom and I'm here we're yeah we're feasting it's
1:25:31
a feast not a fast and then you flip that he says when the
1:25:38
bridegroom is taken away then they'll fast MH do we fast now yeah right we still
1:25:45
fast yeah um because the bridegroom is not currently with us and when you think
1:25:51
about all the many different reasons why we fast one of them I think that we Overlook is we're fasting because the
1:25:57
bridegroom's not here it's a sign of our desire and our wish for him to return it
1:26:03
should be at least it shouldn't just be oh it's fast Sunday right I just got to skip a meal but I mean it's it's
1:26:11
interesting that you because it essentially us
1:26:16
fasting every single month should be looked at similar to the Jews at the Wailing Wall mm like that's our right
1:26:23
that's our sign him now we can fast for other things as well we talk about this it's a sign of Faith but like that's in
1:26:30
its depth the fast is Lord we want you to come back CU we we want to Feast it's
1:26:36
almost like that physical longing for food that you're going without should because the bread of life isn't with us
1:26:41
anymore the bread of life is not with us yeah and so that that physical longing
1:26:47
that hunger uhhuh is also what we just the tip of the iceberg what we should be feeling to be in the presence of our
1:26:54
bridegroom mhm so cool that same longing um okay so yeah this this that's kind of
1:27:03
the Hebrew wedding model um and it plays out all throughout the scriptures I mean
1:27:08
we've we've looked at some of these verses already um you see Jacob goes you know he falls in love
1:27:16
with Rachel and they go through these steps too if you read read the text carefully you'll see these same elements in their wedding except that he goes to
1:27:24
lift the veil and it's Leah right he's worked seven
1:27:29
years and why did he work seven years just to please his father-in-law no that was the bride price because Jacob was
1:27:35
penniless at this point he couldn't offer anything except himself his labor and so that's the seven years were the
1:27:41
bride price he paid once again that was that was the dowry because he couldn't bring a dowry so
1:27:48
he that was the dowry he was providing that was the bride price labor MH um we
1:27:54
have a bridegroom who also offered himself as the bride price he paid the
1:27:59
price for us so yeah he works those seven years to pay for it he gets Leah and
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then this is why their father says no do another you know do her seven days and
1:28:14
then I'll let you marry Rachel that was because Leah deserved her seven days of feasting before we did another wedding
1:28:22
so it explains that a little a little bit and then you see these Traditions really take on a new quality when you
1:28:29
get to Moses and Mount Si all of it is built you've seen you've seen how that
1:28:35
Ascent up SI into the presence of God follows that three-part Temple it also
1:28:41
follows these steps of the wedding where you're having a a proposal made the
1:28:46
terms of the agreement set forth the Ten Commandments will you keep these Commandments yes okay then you're more
1:28:51
prepared okay now we're going to do a washing and a anointing one thing I didn't mention earlier is during that betrothal period the bride and groom would
1:28:59
each go into the Mikvah which is very similar to baptism right um so they would be washed and anointed prior to
1:29:05
their weddings um the bride would be veiled MH just
1:29:11
like Moses comes back from Sinai wearing a veil um so you see all those same
1:29:16
elements and Moses is Ascent to up sin to be in the presence of the bridegroom
1:29:22
MH it plays out and then you know we looked at it in Hosea you see it also in
1:29:27
Joel 21:16 if you want to look at that Joel 21:16 yeah Joel 26 gather the
1:29:33
people sanctify the congregation assemble the elders gather the children
1:29:39
and those who suck the breasts let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber and
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the bride out of her closet yeah so you see there those elements of that wedding
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procession gather everybody up right right before that too 15 blow the trumpet in Zion sanctify a fast call a
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solemn assembly gather the pie okay right so this this is all Hebrew weddings speak where you're blowing the
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trumpet you're Gathering the people the bridegroom's coming out of his chamber the the bride is coming out as well and
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they're going to start this procession so that's how these elements show up all over the the Old and New Testaments I
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think to really get a deeper understanding of this you have to understand one more facet of ancient
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Hebrew life and that's the moadim those are the appointed fasts or the appointed
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feasts it gets translated in in Genesis that word moed is translated as
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Seasons it actually means feasts that these are
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feasts appointed feasts where we are to come into the presence of God it's their
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appointments with God and they always involve feasting one thing I think side note but every
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time Jesus feeds the you know the 5,000 or the 7,000 it says they ate until they
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were filled so our Sacrament bread is just a little tiny piece but yeah so these are
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like real feasts in there right they are feasts um and that that comes from this
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wedding Motif yeah I'm looking right here the first time it's mentioned seasons is mentioned Genesis 11:14 he said let
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there be lights in the fir of the Heaven divide the day from the night and let them be for signs and for seasons and
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for days and for years it should be for signs and for feasts mhm and you have
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those you have the Sun and the Moon especially the moon in the Hebrew calendar to tell you when those feasts
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are supposed to occur okay and this is why we get so the first one of of the year is
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Passover and all of these feasts get fulfilled so they're
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prophetic right yeah so you have Passover prophesying of Christ coming as the
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ultimate sacrifice and then you get the Feast of unleavened bread right after pass Passover um there a lot of
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symbolism in that one too you know you think of you know Jews today still with
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unloved bread they go through their homes and they get rid of all the leaven right it we talk about purifying Our Lives you think could even think of a
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bride purifying herself preparing for marriage but unleavened bread is flat
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it's not risen right so this is the time Christ is lying in the Tomb after his sacrifice so he fulfilled that like he's
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fulfilling these feasts right he's he is the sacrificial lamb he
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is the unleavened bread lying in the Tomb and then the next one is first fruits where he comes out of the Tomb he
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is the first fruits of the Resurrection he says that um one of them is called the the first or the Feast of the first
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fruits yes okay okay and then and those all happen in the spring probably not
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coincidentally right around the time we have General Conference mhm um it's a it's a sacred time of year yeah and it's
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the planting season right so and Christ comes and he fulfills each of these
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feasts and I mean that's a topic for a later discussion but in very detail even
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the time that the Jews were selecting their Passover Lambs was the same time that they're out there waving hosanna as he
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comes in they're selecting him as their Pascal lamb MH um what does hosanna mean
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I think it's God save us I could be wrong save us save us okay so they're
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recognizing him as Savior as the as the L as the lamb too is going to say and they think they did they yell ho Hosanna
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to the lamb as it was being taken to be during the uh day of atonement or I
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don't know if they did is that I don't think so okay cool um let's just say but
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they did say hosanna as Christ is coming in so in in effect they're selecting him to be their their savior yes because
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they're saying save us save us and remember that for them the whole
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background to Passover is being saved from Egypt and they did that by
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sacrificing a lamb and putting the blood on the doorpost right yeah and so that's
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where you get the connection is the for them the lamb was their salvation from Egypt and here they are
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choosing the Paschal lamb who would be their Eternal salvation so Christ fulfills these
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feasts um the the prophetic nature of them and they actually also have they
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tie into the wedding model because in Passover you're the groom is laying out
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the terms of the contract and he's paying a bride price M right so the groom here in Passover is paying the
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ultimate bride price mhm he's buying us with his blood yeah
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um and then you get um yeah unleavened bread he's
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literally lying in the Tomb for three days
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um and then first fruits he comes out of the Tomb it's much like I mean the
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unloved bread is almost like that year of Separation right where they're they can't see the groom mhm
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and then first fruits he's coming out he's he is the the first fruits of the
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Resurrection wow um and in some ways I think that's kind of like when the groom comes to the bride's door during that
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betrothal period and knocks on the door like the groom is there he's standing at the door um and then you get
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Pentecost which is the next one the Jews call it shavat um
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and what happened on Pentecost this is this is where all the gifts of the Spirit were poured out right these are
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gifts from the groom being poured out on the people so even that one has these
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Hebrew wedding undertones to it and then you get to the fall feasts and that's
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where Roshes Shana is the first of the Fall feasts and this they refer to it
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idiomatically as the day that no man knoweth because all the other feasts you could tell by looking at the moon the
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phase of the moon what day it was they're they're they had a lunar base calendar except for Roshes Shana because it
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starts on the first day of the month which is a new moon and a new moon you
1:36:31
can't see okay so anciently to know it was Roshes Shana you'd have to have two
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witnesses out there watching for the new moon I think if I remember correctly there's a certain time as the Sun is
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setting you can catch a glimpse of the Moon and you know it's there but you know it's the new moon so they'd have to
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have two witnesses confirm that this is the new moon and they would run up to the temple and
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tell the temple priests okay it's it's rosashana and that's when they start
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blowing the trumpets um so that was the day that no man knoweth so when Christ
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says no man knoweth the day nor the hour it's also a reference to Roshes Shana
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yeah so wow and you know uh we also like a thief in the night like the darkest
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night right would be the night of roshes so the thief in the night is an interesting
1:37:28
phrase as well it's kind of a side note but so the temple high priest was known
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as the thief in the night because he would come in the middle of the night to see if the temple guards were awake or
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if they'd fallen asleep and if they had fallen asleep you know he'd be coming carrying a torch because it's the middle
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of the night if they had fallen asleep he put the torch to the Hem of their robe light on fire if you're asleep mhm
1:37:53
going to get burned yeah yeah yeah but he so he was known as the thief in the night cuz he'd come and surprise them and wake them up and light their clothes
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on fire interesting that's crazy um so when he when Christ says he's coming as
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a thief in the night it doesn't mean just I'm like a burglar that's going to break in and he's coming as the high
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priest of the temple to see if we're awake so that's cool yeah there's more
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to these phrases than we think there so much more um we're almost out time okay
1:38:23
are we before oh yeah before shows up yeah I one thing I don't I don't know
1:38:29
I'm sure there's so much more to get into with this but direct parallels I
1:38:35
guess with the Book of Mormon and how you've seen that yeah let's go there I only have a few things to talk about that oh my good can I just show this
1:38:42
look look at this this is study this is staying curious and hungry yes um yeah
1:38:49
so all of these themes show up in the Book of Mormon and I think a lot of us are familiar with so the final Feast um
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is soote or the Feast of booths or Tabernacles and I think it's pretty well recognize that that's probably what was
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going on with King Benjamin's speech when all the families gather and they set up their booths around the temple
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it's def it has all of those elements of the Feast of Tabernacles so that's what
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would happen people would like come and just Camp around the yeah he would build a booth uhhuh which is symbolic of like
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the wedding Hoopa um yeah and you would you would camp out there you have a s-day feast to enjoy so
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you're going to be camping out for a little while right yeah um so yeah these
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elements show up in restoration scriptures I mean you get in first Nephi
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11 this is Nephi's vision of the tree of life right and he he sees this tree he has this
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vision and he asks to know the meaning of it and immediately the first thing he
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sees as an explanation of it is who Mary Mary
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right um he sees a woman this this is a covenant bride he's
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seeing and so you see that tie in between the woman and the tree MH
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um so that's that's a hint of it there um but then let's see let's go
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to let's go to mosiah chapter 5 okay okay okay so mosiah chapter 5 I think I
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think this entire chapter is a temple discourse or what would be called a temple text there's many Temple elements
1:40:33
here and anytime you see Temple elements in the scriptures you're going to see these wedding elements as well um so
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mosiah 5:15 I mean there there's so much we could dig into here that um you know
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it's it's in the context of them making a covenant they're all crying with a voice we believe we know they're true
1:40:56
we've had a change of heart basically saying we want to accept the terms of this agreement agreement we want to keep
1:41:02
the Commandments we we want to do these things so yes we accept the proposal okay in other words then you get to five
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okay if you someone wants to read verse five there MH chapter 5 verse 5 uhhuh says and we are willing to enter into a
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covenant with our God to do his will and to be obedient to his Commandments in all things that he shall command us us
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all the remainder of our days that we may not be bring upon us a never-ending
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torment as spoken as as has been spoken by the angel that we may not drink out
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of the cup of the wrath of God okay so they're entering the
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Covenant so that they don't have to be the ones who do what drink the cup of the wrath of God drink the Cup of Wrath
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which is what the bridegroom drinks which is what the bridegroom drank for us Christ says father let this cup pass
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pass from me but if not I'll drink it and then in doctrine of covenants he says I drink the bitter cup so the Cup
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of Wrath and and you were saying that the that could either be referred to as a bitter cup the cup of Wrath cup
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judgment or the cup of judgment yeah okay so right there so and then so
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continue down to uh verse seven oh yeah sorry do you want me to
1:42:20
read it I was going to summarize but cool um it says that they have been born of him changed
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through faith on his name so this is another we haven't talked about this yet but another important element of a
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wedding and we still see this today the bride takes the name of the groom so when we talk about taking his name upon
1:42:37
us oh my goodness that's like the most obvious right it's you've entered into a
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marriage type of relationship with Christ it's not
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just you know I'm wearing the missionary B I'm supposed to represent him no no no I
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mean yes that's part of it but you are in a relationship with Christ This is a
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covenantal relationship that depends on loyalty and respect and
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commitment and honoring those covenants honoring that relationship part of that
1:43:16
is taking his name to show that you identify with him wow so so you see that
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element here in the Book of Mormon and then it ends with in the the last verse
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he he admonishes them to keep stay in this Covenant be steadfast and immovable
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so that he can seal you his seal you his you're his now you belong to him okay
1:43:40
that you may be brought to heaven so that like a bride you can be taken to the father's house that you may have
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ever yeah wow that's really cool seal you his yeah so you
1:43:53
you see it showing up okay so we probably don't have time for this we don't well no if you got a quick one I
1:43:59
got a quick one quick one so third Nephi when Christ comes to the Nephites there's so many others throughout the
1:44:05
Book of Mormon and here's the thing this is this is all I ask of you Andrea just
1:44:11
like the first time Dave and Mike came on here and blew our mind and then Dave went and in four weeks wrote a book I
1:44:17
need you to write a book I need you to put the probably not in four weeks
1:44:23
have more than four weeks have more than four weeks um at least till my kids get back in school yes
1:44:29
okay um so third Nei third Nephi chapter 11 we just we got to look at this one
1:44:35
real quick and there's there's so I could write a entire book just on what I'm about to show you okay I cannot wait
1:44:42
for this book okay let's see so this is
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Christ descending to the Nephites he's appearing to the Knights for the first time and it's interesting Christ comes
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to them twice we forget this he appears to them he goes away for a little while and then he comes back it's what the
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bridegroom does um but here as he's appearing to them the first time he says behold I'm Jesus Christ whom the
1:45:07
prophets testified shall come into the world and behold I am the light and the life of the world now think about the
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bridegroom when he's coming to get his bride he's carrying a light through the dark yeah so when he's the light of the
1:45:18
world like he actually is like the light literally the only light yeah um
1:45:23
and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the father hath given me and have
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glorified the father and taking upon me the sins of the world just like the bridegroom did right for for an
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impure bride he would have spilled his blood um in the which I have suffered
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the will of the father in all things from the beginning so he's he's announcing who he is he's the he's the
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bridegroom he's the bridegroom who paid for our sins and the will of the father right there shows because that's his the
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he picks the bride the father picks the the father told Jesus hey you're going to marry these people and he okay wow so
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this this setup of the Hebrew wedding these ancient Traditions actually Bear
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out throughout the rest of third Nephi the times he comes the things he says
1:46:17
the way the people react the covenants that they make in here it's all Hebrew wedding and that is your homework work
1:46:23
everybody watching read third Nephi chapter 11 lens with this lens Andrea I
1:46:29
am so grateful that you came out and shared this this was so fun and eye opening and once again I need to
1:46:36
reread the scriptures and we're going to need to have you back to to go into all the things that we didn't cuz there's so
1:46:42
many more pages that we didn't tou on like all of Alma 9 is Hebrew wedding third Nephi Hebrew wedding that's it's
1:46:49
all throughout and the Book of Mormon ends on it well when you write your book I hope you consider publishing with us so we can do the bonus content of this
1:46:56
cuz we need we're going to need a good 12 hours to get through it all so well
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thank you guys so much for watching uh Andrea you don't really have much of a presence online if people are like I
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1:47:22
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